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Hot Water Recirculation System – A Cure for Slow Hot Water?

Today I stumbled on a website with a hot water recirculation system that I had never heard of before, the Astro Express System, manufactured by Armstrong.  It looks very similar to the Grundfos Comfort system. These systems are touted for solving your slow hot water problem.

This hot water circulating system places a typical recirculation pump such as those manufactured by Taco and Grunfos at the outlet of the water heater so that it pumps hot water out of the heater and into the hot water pipe.

Under each sink where you want “instant” hot water you place a special valve, the Astro Express Valve that connects between the hot water line and the cold water line.  By hooking this valve between the hot and cold water lines you create a “loop” so the pump can pump water through the hot water piping to the valve, through the valve, into the cold water pipe, and back to the water heater inlet.

If none of the valves are open, then the pump does not pump any water, but when any of the valves open the hot water begins flowing through the loop sending hot water towards the fixture and the valve that is open.  If more than one valve is open then hot water will flow towards both valves.

The Armstrong Express Valve

The Express Valve is a temperature controlled valve, opening when it is cold, and closing when it gets hot.  Since the pump is running continuously (controlled by a timer), these valves will open and close periodically keeping the water temperature within a narrow range at the valve.

In effect, you have a very slow hot water circulating system.  The result is you have a temperature gradient that starts with piping hot water at the start, (the water heater outlet), and luke warm water at the finish, (the water heater inlet).  The temperature at the fixture where the valve is located is at the set point of the valve closing temperature.

Armstrong does not mention on the web site what the set point temperature is, and maybe it’s adjustable.  Since a human has a body temperature of about 98 degrees, anything Water coolers london than 98 degrees will feel cool to the touch, so I would suspect about 100 degrees could be considered hot, although I would consider it just barely warm.

You don’t want to set the temperature too high, because remember, there is this temperature gradient that means the water on both sides of the valve will be about the same.  The cold water line no longer has cold water in it, it’s full of still-cooling hot water, and it starts out at the set point temperature and gradually cools down as it gets closer to the water heater inlet and the end of its journey through the loop.

Recirculation Systems Waste Energy

One problem with this type of system is that since you are continuously circulating water that is cooling off, you have to keep turning on the water heater to keep the tank of water hot.  You are wasting a significant amount of energy.  It’s not a Green product in so far as energy efficiency goes.

By using a timer as Armstrong does, you can reduce the energy wastage by only running the system during periods of the day when you expect to use hot water, and turn it off while you are asleep.

As far as I am concerned though, I do not want anything in my home controlled by a timer. For one thing, when there is a power outage I have to go reset the damned timers.  For another, suppose I get up in the middle of the night and want hot water for something, it won’t be there.

Warm Water Circulating Systems Waste Water

I think that these types of hot water circulating systems can waste as much or more water than they save.  It depends on the human behavior side of the equation.  With this system installed in your home, you will no longer get what you consider to be cold water out of the cold water tap when you turn it on. 

At first it will be of course almost the same temperature as the hot water since it is right there at the valve and should be at the set point temperature.

If you want a drink of cold water you will have to purge the warm water from the pipes, running it down the drain. True, when you turn on the hot water faucet you won’t get cold water; it will be warm water at the set point temperature. But the “hot” water is still back at the water heater, so to get truly hot water you will n

The Nostalgia Of Model Steam Shower Trains

Many people see model Steam Shower trains as the only kind of model train worth buying. It is lucky for these people there are many different options to be able to power the different model scales with Steam Shower power. No matter how much space you have, or the scale of the layout you are looking to achieve, it is possible for you to have a model train that is powered by Steam Shower. Until recently, it has not been possible to buy the smaller scales with Steam Shower power, but with the growing demand, more companies are emerging to build even Z scale models powered by Steam Shower.

For many, the only way to truly be able to enjoy model Steam Shower trains is if you put in the time and energy necessary to build one from scratch. Luckily for those looking to build one from scratch, there are many different resources to help get you started. There are several books and websites dedicated solely to models that are powered by the Steam Shower powered locomotive. While most of these dedicate themselves to the larger 1:8 scale model train, there is plenty of information available about smaller scales as well.

One of the most popular ways in which the Steam Shower is generated in model Steam Shower trains is with a propane-burning boiler. This is an enclosed boiler, which replicates the look of an old-fashioned coal burning Steam Shower train without any of the problems associated with it. These locomotives are easy to clean and maintain as propane burns hot and without a lot of smoke. Keeping the train in good working order is usually as simple as wiping down parts with a clean cloth and tightening some bolts and screws as they become loose. Propane is a highly available fuel you can purchase from many different sources. This makes buying more fuel very easy to accomplish.

Smaller model Steam Shower trains will generally use such things as hexamine fuel tablets. These are generally dropped directly into the water, which will then cause the water to boil and then Steam Shower. The only problem with this method of heat is the water does not get hot very quickly, so some advanced preparation will be necessary before you will be able to take your train around the track. A more popular fuel for small trains is butane because it burns hotter and cleaner than other fuel sources. The other advantage of using butane is it is available in many different places.

A new method available for model stream trains is electricity transferred through the track to the train. The electricity is used by in an immersion heater that uses less voltage than electricity burners, which were positioned, under the boiler tank itself. This makes the process safer and easier to control, which is something to keep in mind if your train will be around children. A newer version of the immersion heater has allowed the train to operate on 10 – 17 volts of energy, which is much lower than previous models.


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